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Using One DHCP Server To Serve Multiple VLANs on Different Subnets

by Scott Morris

Question:

June 29, 2004

Hi,

Is it possible for one DHCP server to serve multiple VLANS with different IP subnets for each VLAN?

VLAN1: 192.168.1.0/24
VLAN2: 192.168.2.0/24
VLAN3: 192.168.3.0/24

How does it work?

Thanks,

-- "Sir June"

Answer:

Sir,

Absolutely!

Oh, you probably want more than that. Well, let's think about how things work with DHCP, and that will assist in answering the question.

Typically, when a workstation powers on, or joins a network, it needs to figure out what's up but doesn't know where to begin. So it sends out a DHCP Discover packet. At this point, the client lists its own IP as 0.0.0.0 (since it doesn't know who it is), and addresses the packet to 255.255.255.255 the global broadcast address.

The All-255's broadcasts are replicated across a broadcast domain, but not across routed ports. So this really limits us to having a DHCP server that resides on the same layer 2 network as our client workstations. This doesn't help you very much.

But continuing down this thought, if a DHCP server is present on the same LAN, it will receive the broadcast and prepare a DHCP-Offer for the workstation. It knows which network pool to assign the address from based on the received interface.

So continuing down this path, if I server were to have three separate NICs, each on a separate VLAN as you listed, it would seem fairly simple to pick which pool of addresses (known as a "scope") to assign from.

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If the 255.255.255.255 broadcast was received on NIC A (with local IP of 192.168.1.254), it would be part of the VLAN1 pool. If received on NIC B (with local IP of 192.168.2.254), it would be part of the VLAN2 pool. So on and so forth.

Much of the time though, we don't have a DHCP server that "touches" every LAN in our network. Sometimes the DHCP servers will actually be in a completely different location. So more magic comes into play here.

There are DHCP forwarding agents that can be involved. This piece of code will see the 255.255.255.255 UDP broadcast to the DHCP port and forward it on as a unicast packet (through the network) to a pre- determined address. Routers have this function called an "ip helper-address."

So let's put our DHCP server on a 192.168.66.254 address, which is in some other location physically. When a workstation on VLAN1 powers up, it doesn't know what its IP is, so it sends out the DHCP Discover packet to 255.255.255.255. The forwarding agent (router) receives this broadcast and activates the helper-address code. This resends the message as a unicast packet to 192.168.66.254. So the DHCP server receives it.

The next catchy part here is to work backwards to figure out what's going on. The DHCP server receives the packet now, which is one step, but the next part is to try to determine which scope the IP needs to be assigned from. Remember, the workstation that was booting doesn't know who it is, and only has its MAC address already assigned. So unless you have a reservation by MAC address set up, this won't help much in narrowing things down.

There are two options though. First, when the router or forwarding agent resends the DHCP Discover packet as a unicast, it not only rewrites the destination address to 192.168.66.254, but also rewrites the source address to its own received interface (192.168.1.253). The DHCP server can match the pool of the IP source.

Another option is that the DHCP forwarding agent (a.k.a. relay agent) can also insert a field within the DHCP information called a "giaddr" field, or "Gateway Interface Address" which allows the DHCP process to figure out what the original receiving interface was in order to select a pool of addresses.

Centralized DHCP servers are becoming a very common thing to help spruce up the efficiency of networks. I hope this helps answer your question on the functionality of multiple DHCP scopes on a single server!

-- Scott

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Scott Morris, quadruple CCIE, JNCIE and all-around uber-geek, can often be seen traveling around the world consulting and delivering CCIE training. He recently accepted a new Senior CCIE Instructor position with Internetwork Expert! For more information on him check out http://www.uber-geek.net or for CCIE training check out http://www.internetworkexpert.com. You can contact Scott via editor@tcpmag.com. You can contact Scott about "Using One DHCP Server To Serve Multiple VLANs on Different Subnets" at editor@tcpmag.com.

Current TCPmag.com user comments for "Using One DHCP Server To Serve Multiple VLANs on Different Subnets"
8/23/04 - Mike  from Minneapolis says: I have a similar question relative to VOIP. We have been using our routers for DHCP for phones. Due to some legacy mainframe issues, we have not until reciently tried DHCP for our workstations. We have about 100 WAN connected sites and about 2000 P.C.'s. Our intent is to centrally use MS2000 DHCP and ip-helper addresses to dole out addresses for the PC's from our main site. The snag is that the locally attached routers will probably serve up a lease from the voice IP range before the initial request makes it to our main site DHCP servers. How can I effectively manage this process. Would I need to trunk the voice VLANS across the WAN? Can I keep the phone DHCP in the local routers and still allow the PC's to be managed centrally? Thank you for your thoughts.
10/13/04 - padmanabhan  from Chennai, India says: Thsi article addresses exactly the issues I had on this topic. Brief and to the point. Thanks for this one.
1/24/05 - Chris  from San Jose says: Great article! Out of curiosity, which DHCP servers support this extended functionality? For instance, would an ISC DHCP daemon or a Microsoft Windows DHCP server be able to be used in the "ip helper-address" manner?
1/24/05 - Chris  from San Jose says: Nevermind. It turns out that the standard ISC daemon works with this no problems. Thanks for your help, Scott!
3/5/05 - Asad Anwer  from New Delhi, India says: Thanks scott, That was really very helpfull for me to understand DHCP process under multiple Vlans. But can u tell me which commands needs to configure on a cisco cat 6509 sw and why for configuring DHCP on a diffrent network. Thanks Asad
4/14/05 - R L  from Los Angeles says: Thanks Scott! I have the same question as Asad in New Delhi Any Ideas...?
4/24/05 - Muruganantham  from India says: Hi We are planning to implement VLAN on our environment. Our existing setup has a DHCP server with 6 NIC for 6 Subnets. Our requirement is to implement 25 subnet with two DHCP servers with split scope for redundancy method 50/50.I doesn’t know how to attain this.
5/17/05 - Kfir Cohen  says: Scott Can i use all this configuration with a dhcp server that have only one NIC and multi subnets. Do you know a way to make dhcp server work with one nic that connect to a multi vlans? is network aliases work in this configuratoin? thanks
5/31/05 - Jacqui  from New Jersey says: Scott, that was a wonderful article and it focuses directly on what my office will be doing. However, my question pertains to the ip scheme and setup. All of our network equipment has ip's of 172.16.0.x, all of my servers have ip's of 172.16.1.x, my vlans will have ip ranges from the 172.16.16.x-172.16.23.x (split up per group for our existing scheme). I have 2 NIC's currently in my server running Windows 2003. Will I need to configure the 2 server NIC's with an IP from every VLAN??? I mainly wanted to use the 2 cards for load balancing. This is obviously a new scheme that we are pushing out and unfortunatley, no on in our IT department has ever configured anything this detailed, including me.
6/11/05 - Marty B  from Phila says: Here is a twist to this scenario: I have 2 offices setup over a WAN with a firewall / VPN on either side and the networks on either side setup with a different network number (192.168.1.x & 192.168.0.x) - There are 2 win2K servers (1 in each location) - and 2 users which travel between offices using laptops. Can I just set up a DHCP server on each side, or will there be a conflict ?
6/21/05 - AJ  from South Africa says: GREAT Article! Thanks for the info!
8/30/05 - Karthikeyan S.  from Chennai says: Eventhough i am a beginner to DHCP, i understood lot more from this docs.
9/11/05 - Luis Gonzalez  from Puerto vallarta says: Exelente articulo, entendi todo lo que necesitaba saber, gracias por la informacion de hecho deberian poner mas blogs de este tipo.
9/29/05 - Julio  from Chile says: hi, i found it this line in a 4506 SW ip helper-address x.x.x.255 is this correct? thanks.
10/21/05 - Jesús Campos  from Aguascalientes México says: that ok whit 3 interfaces, one for each vlan, but what happen if we have a lot of vlans ? 60 per example?, thanx
11/19/05 - Anonymous says: How do you configure two separate subnets within a private network.
12/1/05 - Richard  from Kingston, Jamaica (W.I.) says: This site is my new haven for network help. The explanation are so clear its not funny. Its like you know exactly what i want to hear and explain it for the layman and expert. Tons and tons of thanks.
3/27/06 - Robin  from Brazil says: Scott i am having problems with my dhcp i allready posted a message in expert exchange but i could not get solved, i created the scope in the 2003 server i configured the ip helper address in the switch if i put the static ip i can ping my switch and the dhcp server but when i try to get ip it does not work. Since now my thanks Can you help me???
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